WRITING in Chronicles magazine on passage of same-sex “marriage” in New York, Patrick Buchanan says,

We are entering an era where communities will secede from one another and civil disobedience on moral grounds will become as common as it was in the days of segregation.

                                                              — Comments —

Buck O. writes:

I sent this to Chronicles, which I’m sure won’t be read by Pat Buchanan. I needed to vent. This issue makes me crazy. And, especially these vague suggestions of illusions to actions left unexplained. It sounds like no more than wishful thinking. “civil disobedience”? Take an aspirin and call me in the morning. Here is what I wrote:

Who is going to do what? What kind of “community” are you talking about? A neighborhood association banning gay night at the pool? A justice of the peace refusing to perform a gay marriage? A town council voting against flamboyance at the annual parade? Or, perhaps a squad of US Marines refusing to muster with the proud gay that winks at them in the shower? What kind of “community” are you talking about? And, what form of civil disobedience are you talking about? 

Each of my examples would be slapped down by their ruling authority in a heart beat. What kind of meaningful civil disobedience are you predicting? I don’t see it. How does this work? 

Who would do what? How would they get away with it? What exactly are you talking about? People have great difficulty simply mustering the courage in their personal, social lives. How is a “community” going to stand up to the authority and rule of modern liberalism? At what level of government is this successful? 

Laura writes:

There won’t be mass civil disobedience in New York soon, if that’s what you mean, but it’s hard to believe there won’t be steady non-compliance by some small towns and those in the wedding business. This won’t remain a state issue and once  states are forced to go along with same-sex “marriage” because of court rulings in child custody cases, there would probably be very significant civil disobedience. If, say, a town clerk were arrested for refusing to marry a same-sex couple, that might inspire other acts of protest.

Consider Lisa Miller who fled the country with her daughter after a Vermont child custody ruling and Timo Miller, who supported her.

Buck writes:

What Lisa Miller did is way beyond civil disobedience. Under the law of the modern liberal state – she’s a felon, and so is this poor Timo. 

If you’re suggesting that a wave of civil disobedience, by, like you say, wedding services and town clerks will get a critical and deciding case to the Supreme Court, and that the court will turn back the tide of modern liberalism, I hope that you are right. I hope that Pat is right. But, that is just a hope. Hope to me, now, against the huge power and momentum that is surging gaydom ahead is thin. I just wish that there was something concrete that I could do, something that I’m not already doing.

Buck adds:

What Pat said, “where communities will secede from one another and civil disobedience on moral grounds will become as common as it was in the days of segregation,” sounds very strong, more than just a simple civil disobedience, like sit-ins and marches without permits, or defying orders from the boss. He’s suggesting that “communities” (quotes because I still don’t know what he means) will secede. Secession is a formal legal challenge for sovereignty. That’s serious stuff. That’s not a clerk sacrificing his job by taking an individual personal stand against what he thinks and believes is wrong. Secession, if it’s large enough, has caused war. That’s hyperbolic now, but that’s why I would like Pat to elaborate.

Laura writes:

The homosexual “marriage” movement has gained much of its momentum from the belief that it will create no harm. So far state governments have not arrested anyone for refusing to comply with a same-sex marriage law or ruling, other than Timothy Miller, and while Lisa Miller’s case has stirred interest, it is not a major story in the news lately.

But unless same-sex “marriage” is defeated nationally through a federal constitutional amendment, or dies through separate state ballot initiatives, it eventually will cause clear harm as it is forced on states that are even more resistant to the idea than New York. There is no way around that. Lisa Miller lived in Virginia when a Vermont court ordered her to hand over her child to her former lesbian partner, who was neither the biological or adoptive parent of the girl. Child custody disputes cross state lines. Given the enormous popular sentiment against same-sex”marriage,” it’s safe to predict that there will be various forms of serious protest once there are more Lisa Millers or when town clerks are arrested in areas with major resistance. I’m not suggesting that this would result in a favorable Supreme Court ruling but that it would make same-sex marriage laws unenforceable; create more momentum for a federal constitutional amendment or precipitate secession movements.

Please follow and like us: