THE BLOGGER “Out of Sleep” contends that people can’t be argued out of liberalism, only awakened from it. He writes:

I … live in a very liberal neighborhood in a top-three liberal city, and work in a field absolutely lousy with doctrinaire liberals. And I don’t mean go-with-the-flow, vote Obama cause he seems like a reasonable guy kind of liberals. I mean religion-is-poison, whites-are-evil, if God were not dead it would be necessary to kill him kind of Sauron Morgoth Saruman liberals! (Ok maybe I’m exaggerating a bit.)

Often I’m tempted to try and argue them out of their positions. Often I give in to the temptation. Nothing ever comes of it except sour feelings and frustration, and a feeling of being alienated from my fellows.

Awakening is the only thing that works.

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Hannon writes:

I can relate to what “Out of Sleep” said about communicating with liberals. It is almost invariably a futile exercise, even when the dialogue is about deeper aspects of liberal vs. conservative philosophy. I find it striking that conservative or non-liberal people are often keen to engage a political discussion while liberals are generally averse to any real challenge to their views. While I continue to believe that such conversations are worthwhile, awakenings in any direction are rare, and agreement by reasoning is too seldom to be satisfying.

Liberal ideologues rarely will admit to anything like seeking the dismantling of Western tradition and Western man, even when it is pointed out to them that their essential agenda can only lead in this direction. Modern liberals, including the Occupy Wall Street crowd, have a permanent revolutionary mindset. The principles of conservatism (family, tradition, history, the tangible and spiritual good) are precisely what is needed for liberals to constantly revolt against, and those same principles and the people who hold them are needed to rebuild after more violent periods of leftism.

Arguing with liberals mainly serves to keep them and us mindful of the fact that their requirements for a strong– and sometimes weak– adversary will always exist.

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