IN response to the entry on Chinese women giving birth on American soil, a reader sent the following comment, which was previously published at View from the Right.

Anti-Global Expatriate writes:

Despite all the various historical antipathies between various Asian nations, all Asians feel more kinship with one another than with Westerners or other outsiders.

Yes, the Koreans may hate the Japanese, and the Chinese may hate the Japanese (this perception is actually deliberately exaggerated by the Korean, Chinese, and Japanese governments and business conglomerates in order to confuse the West in trade negotiations and so forth), and the Chinese may think they’re superior to all, but Asians will work together to take advantage of/frustrate the designs of Westerners and other outsiders.

Another thing to keep in mind is that all Asian countries, with the exception of India, form the ‘Confucian sphere’, and that whatever their theoretical political systems (‘democracy’ in Asia is a sham, of course), their underlying cultural value systems are based upon it.

Confucianism is essentially a form of hyper-nepotism, putting oneself and one’s family above all other considerations, even when one’s family may be wrong. Lying, cheating, stealing, bribing – all these things are A-OK, as long as a) you don’t do them to your family, and b) you don’t get caught. There is no analogue of the Western concepts of ‘fair play’ or ‘justice’, the Confucian view of the world is that it’s a Hobbesian war of all against all, and devil take the hindmost.

This means that anything and everything is allowed in the pursuit of personal and familial gain. Asian social relations are mainly structured around the acquisition of money/power, and forming relationships with others who can be useful in the acquisition of money/power.

The oft-remarked prejudice most Asians hold towards Indians in particular is based upon a) skin color and b) the perception (generally true) that most Indians don’t have a lot of money and/or are cheapskates (Asians are very thrifty compared to Westerners, so this is saying something!).

Asians as a whole were shocked/dismayed that the USA elected Barack Obama as President of the United States, as he’s black and blacks are considered animals by most Asians (Asians make the KKK look like the NAACP). Of course, Obama’s incompetence and weakness merely confirm this view.

If you are a Westerner and have close friends who are Asian, you should always keep in mind that the primary loyalties of Asians are to their family/village/city/region/ethnic subgroup/nation/primary ethnic group first, and all other relationships fall below this hierarchy in importance. In business, you must assume that all Asians you deal with are lying to you, all the time, and that their primary objective isn’t to reach an equitable, mutually-profitable business arrangement, but to take you to the cleaners. This is true of Asians who reside in the West as well as those who reside in their countries of origin; so-called ‘Asian-Americans’ are Asian in all the attitudes and loyalties which count.

What Westerners call ‘corruption’ is deeply embedded in Asian culture; governmental officials, police, the military, et. al. are basically gangs of rent-seekers whose primary goal is to extract as much money/power from their subject populace in order to benefit their own families (see Confucianism, above). Bureaucrats, law enforcement, and the military are all paid a pittance, so they turn to various forms of criminality and oppression in order to take what they feel is rightfully ‘theirs’, and there’s no remorse or stigma attached to such behavior. This is a deliberate strategy on the part of Asian governments, as it leads to selective enforcement of the law, which is a powerful psychological tool for keeping the populace in check – in a society where one simply cannot get along without violating some laws and regulations, and in which one inevitably ends up paying bribes to get out of sticky situations, the bureaucrats have a lever on everyone, and they can use it at will for their own personal gain.

Singapore is probably the least-corrupt Asian nation (it’s still corrupt, of course, but at a level more tolerable to Westerners, and certainly more circumspect than in many other Asian countries); China is the most corrupt, with Burma and Vietnam neck-and-neck for the second slot. Thailand and the others then fall in line behind. Contrary to popular belief, both Japan and the RoK are quite corrupt by Western standards; they just tend to manage Western public perception better than most other Asian countries.

This ‘corruption’ is not seen as evil or wrong in the Confucian worldview, it’s seen as a positive duty to one’s kin to be ‘corrupt’ if and when one has the opportunity to do so. So it’s possible to characterize Asian corruption as far more honest and less hypocritical than corruption in Western societies.

Despite periodic announcements of supposed anti-corruption campaigns in various Asian countries, the truth of the matter is that most Asians aren’t interested in rooting out governmental and commercial corruption – they’re interested in figuring out how they and theirs can sidle up to the trough.

If you are a Westerner involved in business activities with Asians, you need to understand that you are culturally ill-equipped to deal with them; you must be functionally paranoid at all times, even with perceived (note the ‘perceived’) friends/close business associates. It’s nothing personal, it’s just how things are done in Asian culture; once you understand this, you’re much less likely to be done dirty, and are more able to shrug it off and not dwell on it. Keep in mind that your seemingly Westernized, Western-educated Asian buddies (unless they’re ivory-tower academics; even those tend to plagiarize like mad) are still out to extract maximum value from their relationships with you, they’re just extremely better-equipped than most other Asians to do so because they appear to be just like your other Western friends and associates. In reality, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

If you understand this, you’ll be able to deal with Asians much more effectively; if you maintain your own moral compass and standards even in the face of this very different worldview, you’ll gain great face amongst Asians, who will respect you for not being naive while at the same time maintaining your personal and cultural integrity.

There’s also an undue deference paid to Westerners in Asian societies; even as they seek to exploit you, you will often be allowed far more freedom and leeway than Asians are, and will be viewed as being an expert in your chosen profession, even if the Asians you deal with have more experience and expertise in a given field (which is actually quite rare). This isn’t fair, of course, but it’s how things are.

Finally, age and seniority are at the top of the Confucian hierarchy. Asian societies are very intolerant of youthful innovation and independence. Generalized interests, individuality, and curiosity for its own sake are disdained; specialization, conformity, and knowing/keeping in one’s place in the hierarchy is all.

I live and work in Asia, and I enjoy it – it’s the most challenging cultural and business millieu in the world. It’s important to understand that what I’ve described above is the result of a values system and ethos radically different from that of the West, and that one must understand and accept that Asian nations and cultures are quite different from Western nations and cultures. Thinking that Asians (or Middle Easterners, or Africans) are really just like Westerners, with only a few quaint traditions which separate these vastly different cultures, is a patronizing and indeed dangerous form of cultural condescension. We aren’t going to convert them to the classical Western worldview, nor should we try; the best strategy is to keep them at arm’s-length, engaging in profitable trade when it makes sense to do so, but without embedding these people within Western society, thereby enabling them to subvert its few remaining values from within.

— Comments —

PL writes:

I am mostly in agreement with this statement, although I would object to his statement about Singapore being the least corrupt in Asia. I would also disagree with his characterization of Japan. My family has had some business with the Japanese and I have found that their system is actually rather different to the rest of Asia. For example, the ease of enforcing contracts is much more like a Western country. Health and safety standards are much more like a Western country. The overall trustworthiness of Japanese businessmen is something that we have found to be quite good. That is not to say that there are no unhealthy relationships between the government and big business, but this is a problem that is not unique to Asia and today’s Japan does not suffer from this anymore than say France, Germany or the UK. Japan is not within that same Confucian sphere. Japan underwent a period of Sinicisation during the Heian period, but was culturally isolated before that and was isolated after. During the Tokugawa period, the Japanese were exposed to Western ideas to a large extent via trade with the Dutch. All these ideas were synthesized into an existing culture. These foreign ideas, be they Chinese or Western have developed into very different forms through this isolation. The Japanese are very different to the Koreans and the Chinese.

Singapore has a different and altogether more sinister form of corruption that ultimately comes from a hyper extension of those same Confucian beliefs as the rest of Asia. In many Asian countries, there is a substantial private economy that is engaged in a graft-riddled relationship with the government. This results from the fact that there is effectively a perverse “balance of power” between private and public interests. Singapore on the other hand is unique because so much of the economy is effectively run by the government. Seventy percent of the Economy is owned or controlled by the government. It has attained this power by regulating private interests out of existence and by using public funds to simply buy out entire sectors of the economy. If you count the share of the private economy that is effectively a client of the government, you will find that the government of Singapore has achieved a more thorough control of its economy than Stalin or Mao. Given that there is a thoroughly minimal private sector, the government does not require the acquiescence of the private sector to its policies and so is not susceptible to bribery, lobbying and other forms of political and financial horsetrading. The downside is that the government has monopoly power as an almost sole purchaser of labor and a sole retailer of many important goods and services. Naturally living costs are very high in relation to wages for Singaporeans. What is worse, many important institutions are thus only loosely subject to Singaporean laws. The courts are a tool used to suppress dissent and to enforce often arbitrary government policies. If you are employed as a foreign employee, it is not uncommon for you to go unpaid and for you to be cheated or abused if you come from a country that is perceived to lack the geopolitical might/will to stand up for its citizens. There are many examples of this. I think the most egregious example might well be the fact that, much of Singapore’s reserves are bundled together along with all of Singapore’s state-owned corporations inside of an investment company called Temasek Holdings. This is one of the largest asset holding and investment companies on the planet with over 400 billion dollars in holding and is run by none other than the prime minister’s wife. This woman lacks any business qualifications. She also completely lacks any qualifications in economics or finance. Naturally she has developed a scandalous reputation for epic incompetence, with disastrous investments in Citibank stock weeks before the Global financial crisis. I have yet to see this level of nepotism and insanity in any other modern Asian country outside of North Korea.

Singapore is a different kettle of fish. It is not less corrupt, it is better described as differently corrupt. Different is not better, it may well be much worse!

Anti-Globalist Expatriate writes:

I must respectfully disagree with PL’s comments regarding Japan. Japanese society and the Japanese economy is thoroughly riddled with organized crime gangs, the Yakuza, who even have office buildings and their own newspapers. And while the panic over the Fukushima nuclear reactor debacle was grossly exaggerated by the press at the behest of eco-fanatics, the faked safety inspections and other issues of this type which were revealed in the aftermath of the tsunami are business as usual in Japan. Likewise the recent scandal concerning high-end Japanese restaurants charging for quality ingredients which weren’t in fact used in the preparation of food in those restaurants. And so forth.

PL’s observations about Singapore are insightful and accurate, as far as they go. However, besides the macro-scale issues PL discusses, there is a perpetual nexus of corruption involving various types of contractors and the Singaporean government, with bribes paid in order to win contracts, preferential treatment due to nepotism, IT companies having attractive female sales representatives literally prostitute themselves to government officials and businessmen in order to win business, the persistence of open prostitution despite laws against it, etc.

Searching the Internet reveals numerous anecdotal stories of similar forms of corruption being practiced by Asians residing in the United States; just once such example (now seemingly forgotten) was the infamous ‘bundling’ of campaign contributions for both the Clintons by Asian immigrants in California and elsewhere. All the Asian-run protection rackets, forced prostitution rings, and so forth in the United States simply mirror activities in their respective homelands, including Japan and Singapore.

In my dealings with second- and third-generation Asians living in the United States, who are thoroughly encultrated on the surface, I can’t count the times I’ve run across schemes to rig bids, purchase unearned academic credentials, lie about academic credentials, steal intellectual property, commit insider trading, cheat on academic and professional certification exams, plagiarize academic work, fake supposed results of bogus experiments, etc.

I guess they feel right at home.

Indians in the United States engage in all these same types of illicit activities, too, just as they do in their homeland – although more ineptly than Asians (again, just as in India).

Sustained importation of Asians and Indians and other Third-Worlders into the United States is having a morally corrosive effect on what’s left of American civic and business culture. I’m thoroughly convinced that the ‘minority home ownership’-driven mortgage bubble wouldn’t have taken place had not the constraints of civilized and ethical behavior been eroded by constant exposure to the staggering venality which is omnipresent in the Third World.

Sheila C. writes:

I thoroughly endorse everything in Anti-Globalist Expatriate’s comments.  More often than not, lately, I decline to join the fray because I’m just so tired of rehashing the same old arguments time and again, and encountering the same illogical or emotional rationales again and again.

People are not interchangeable.  To quote from another website, the Duke of Wellington purportedly said that “Being born in a stable doesn’t make one a horse.”  Being an American requires more than an accident (or calculated choice) of birth.  Wearing jeans and liking pizza doesn’t make one an all-American guy. Cultures and races are profoundly different.  These differences are real.  Noticing patterns is rational, not racist.  If IQ alone can determine an ideal society, and all Asians are supposedly so terribly clever, why are they all so keen to move here, amongst White savages?

I’ve lived in Asia.  I’ve lived in Europe. I’ve lived in Russia. I’ve met individuals I’ve liked and disliked in each location, but I’ve never felt at home.  Of course, I  no longer feel at home in the U.S., either – since the U.S. I grew up in has been destroyed.  Regardless, those who are boosters of Asian immigration because they believe Asians are smart or less criminal are still intent on destroying the American homeland and cultural heritage.  Asian crime levels are staggering – albeit not the violent, bestial crime that American blacks are particularly prone to commit.  The number of Asian spying cases – including large numbers of so-called Asian Americans – is staggering, and not generally reported.  Their loyalty and identity are inseparable from their ethnicity.  Multiculturalism is a dangerous and destructive ideology, inimical to Western civilization.

As far as Asians’ and Africans’ purported Christianity, let’s start the discussion with Feng Shui, the Asian concept of luck, and the general role of superstition in each culture.  Those who like to imply that Christianity comes in many different cultural contexts love to ignore these basic and fundamental issues, which are utterly contrary to biblical truth.

Steve writes:

These are all very thoughtful comments with many grains of truth.  However, I have to say that the overall thrust of these comments runs counter to my own experience in East Asia generally (have lived in China and Korea for many years and visited Japan many times).

Where to start?  I feel so much safer in East Asia than in the U.S.  I can walk down the streets in almost any major East Asian city at 2 a.m. and feel completely safe, which I can’t do in the U.S., because of the people the good white folks in the U.S. have chosen to allow in the country. (and East Asians everywhere have lower rates of violent crime than even whites).  I feel free to express my ideas in East Asia, even China–even political ideas as long as I don’t broadcast something challenging the government.  In the U.S., publically expressing views like the ones on this site (even just to a colleague) gets people fired (this is no exagerration) and you can become an unemployable pariah (labeled racist and extremist–frankly, I would be surprised if the NSA doesn’t currently monitor your site for “hate speach”).  Police in the U.S. are all on power trips and continually harass you.  It’s like entering a police state everytime I fly in.  Coming back to China, or especially Korea, is so much more relaxed.  Western ideas of family are demonstrably inferior to those of East Asian countries.  Extended families take care of one another and raise children much more efficiently than these little units we have in the U.S.  I know you guys want to eliminate divorce, but it’s undeniable that this problem is rampant in the West and less so in East Asia, where beneficial social stigmas still exist.

It’s amazing how Japan has so much more corruption than the U.S. (on some level I’m sure it does),but still there is not the same extreme wealth inequality you get in the U.S.  I guess all the captains of industry in the U.S. earn their money fair and square (I’m not anti-capitalist, but having extreme wealth inequality doesn’t really help society–and yes, China is not as good as Korea and Japan in this regard, but it is still emerging from the 3rd world and the U.S. doesn’t have that excuse).  Americans fetishize “democracy”, but now it is leading us into oblivion, as those seeking handouts will grow more and more and will always be encouraged to “rock the vote”.  Latin America also has “democracy” in many countries…

I understand that original American culture, founded principally by Europeans, was amazing and made the U.S. the greatest country on earth.  Yes, this shared understanding is why we come to this site.  However, as much as we like to talk about the good old days and hope for revival, the country is going down the toilet now.  I’ll give my kids the choice of whether to live in the U.S or East Asia, but if it wasn’t for famous colleges and more open space and land (especially, the possibility of getting a reasonably priced house–not really doable in East Asia), I probably wouldn’t have much reason to go back.  I’m red pill about the U.S., as well as about women.

Adam writes:

Anti-Global Expatriate wrote: “Asians as a whole were shocked/dismayed that the USA elected Barack Obama as President of the United States, as he’s black and blacks are considered animals by most Asians (Asians make the KKK look like the NAACP). Of course, Obama’s incompetence and weakness merely confirm this view.”

I find this difficult to reconcile with the fact that “Asian American voters favored Obama over Romney by a ratio of more than 3-to-1 (76 percent versus 23 percent)” (source). What could explain this, if it is really the case that most Asians secretly loathe blacks? My guess is that Asians perceive correctly that the Democratic party has pitted itself against the interests of the historic American nation (mostly middle class whites), and that it is the party of “change” — that is, transformation of the U.S. from its mostly European heritage to a culturally chaotic wasteland of clashing ethnicities. The more political power that progressive Democrats possess, the faster this transformation proceeds (and it is already quite far along, perhaps terminally so). Therefore, Asians will vote for a black president even if they personally loathe blacks as long as the black president is a progressive Democrat who is in favor of demographically overwhelming the historic American nation and dispossessing whites of political control of the United States. As Anti-Global Expatriate explained, Asians know how to thrive in the corrupt, third-world political environment (weak civil society, selective enforcement of laws, nepotism, widespread bribery, etc.) that will result from this transformation.

Laura writes:

I asked an Indian friend about this. All her relatives voted for Obama. (She herself voted for Romney.) I said, “Do you think it’s because they see the Republicans as the white party and, whether consciously or not, don’t like the idea of white identity?’

She said that, yes, that was likely true though it was not something any of her relatives would openly admit.

Domagoj writes:

I’ve been reading discussions about Asian mentality on your blog and one quote came to my mind.

“Our country won’t go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won’t be any America—because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.” — Lieutenant General Chesty Puller, USMC, one of the most decorated marines in Corps history.

I think this quote nails it.

Westerners lost the will to survive and lost the will to power. They are in a decadent, declining state much like the Romans before the fall of the Empire, who were tired of life and hardships so they thought it a brilliant idea to import barbaric tribes to do what they didn’t want to do. After all what’s the difference? Everydody can become Roman.

Or so they thought.

We all know how that played out.

I think East Roman historian Procopius wrote: “Under the deceptive mantle of alliance the state fell to the tyrannical rule of intruders.”

(I read this in Croatian so I am not sure that this is exact quote in English.)

But knowledge isn’t what is central; will, emotions are. You don’t want foreigners to rule your land because they are foreigners. This is your land and you want to rule it and your posterity after you. This is normal human behaviour. And all people act like this, All but Westerners. Who are becomed too cultured and less natural.

Either that changes or we will end up like the antique nations and civilizations who are only in history books. They were to tired to live.

Anti-Globalist Expatriate writes:

I have lived and worked full-time in Asia for the last seven years, and conducted business in Asia for the last nine years. My observations reflect my firsthand experience; I’ve spent considerable time in every country in the region except North Korea and Pakistan.

Steve’s remarks about feeling safe walking down the streets at night are, quite frankly, naive. Yes, there are tourist enclaves which have been carved out in the major cities in each Asian country which are relatively safe for Westerners, but outside those enclaves (and even inside them, for Westerners who’re naive), crime, violence, drug use, et. al. is quite common and Westerners who stray even the slightest often find themselves the targets of violent assaults, sometimes with fatal consequences. Or they find themselves being shaken down and extorted by the police, which are just another gang, albeit with badges.

In India, even in the capital, Delhi, you can’t walk down the streets at night, because there *are no* sidewalks. Trying to take public transportation (which consists of overcrowded, filthy buses) would be inviting robbery, rape, and/or murder – the only way for Westerners to navigate Delhi is by engaging a car and driver. In Bombay, there are sidewalks, but they are unsafe at night.

Steve’s statement that ‘East Asians everywhere have lower rates of violent crime than even whites’ is demonstrably false, even in the underreported official crime statistics of Asian countries.

The idea that the police in Asian countries aren’t on ‘power trips’ and don’t ‘continually harass’ you is also demonstrably false. In fact, it’s 180 degrees out of sync with the truth. Steve obviously hasn’t yet had the pleasure of being extorted for, say, the simple act of driving while white in Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, or rural China.

Wealth inequality between the upper classes of all Asian societies – whether the Communist kleptocracy in China, the ‘amart’ in Thailand, the executives of keiretsu in Japan, and the chaebol in the RoK – and the ordinary citizens of those countries is profound. And that doesn’t even take into account the ‘black’ economy of bribes, graft, etc.

With regards to the female condition in Asia, it’s true that the curse of feminism is nowhere to be found, outside of rarified academic circles. However, Asian culture goes too far in the other direction, so women are typically treated very poorly, routinely abused and taken advantage of, and not taken seriously in business and government, even though they are seen in those realms mainly in order to convince naive Westerns how liberal and ‘progressive’ they are in order to gain trade concessions (search online for examples of how the prime minister of Thailand, Yingluck Shinawatra, has been routinely denigrated and publicly insulted using the most vulgar of terms even in the mainstream Thai media).

Steve strikes me as a typical self-loathing Westerner who spends his time in sheltered tourist enclaves, doesn’t speak the local language, and is unaware of both the history of the countries he visits as well as current events taking place in those countries. He is dangerously unaware of the reality of the situation; in particular, his statement that he would actually consider raising a family in Asia is extremely disturbing. The only Asian country in which it’s possible to raise a family without grossly endangering their physical well-being is Singapore; the risk in Singapore is that they will be intellectually stunted due to the groupthink and rote learning fostered even in the international schools there.

Anti-Globalist adds:

Adam’s analysis of why Asians in America vote Democratic is spot-on. Asians make Machiavelli look like Mr. Rogers.

Steve responds:

Anti-Globalist wrote:

Steve strikes me as a typical self-loathing Westerner who spends his time in sheltered tourist enclaves, doesn’t speak the local language, and is unaware of both the history of the countries he visits as well as current events taking place in those countries. He is dangerously unaware of the reality of the situation; in particular, his statement that he would actually consider raising a family in Asia is extremely disturbing. The only Asian country in which it’s possible to raise a family without grossly endangering their physical well-being is Singapore; the risk in Singapore is that they will be intellectually stunted due to the groupthink and rote learning fostered even in the international schools there.

Anti-Globalist Expatriate strikes me as extremely presumptuous.  You are making this personal, but I don’t wish to get into a personal argument.  I’m not self-loathing.  If I were a typical self-loathing Westerner, why would I be interested in tradionalist websites that do nothing but extol the virtues of Western culture as it used to be?   I dislike the current state of America, but I’m sure you must as well.  I’ve seen more of China and Korea (in terms of cities visited) than most Chinese and Koreans, respectively.  I speak both languages.  So you are flat out wrong about your assumptions about me (and happy to verify if need be).  I will leave our gentle readers to determine whether what the rest of what you have said in your posts happens to be 100% correct when your presumptions are completely off the mark.

Our time spent in Asia is similar (in total, I have more time under my belt), but it seems like our experiences are very different.  Maybe we have to leave it at that.  If you hate Asia so much, not even sure why you’d come out here.  First, I think it’s important to distinguish “East Asia” from the rest of Asia.  I have only been talking about East Asia.  I wouldn’t think of raising my family in India or Thailand, countries you mentioned in response to me for some reason (you wouldn’t lump the U.S. and Central American countries together for discussion purposes, even though they may be on the same continent).  You also mentioned the possibility of being extorted for driving in rural China.  Fair point on that, but it doesn’t happen in Korea, Japan or Taiwan, and Chinese major cities, are, in my considerable experience, much safer than U.S. major cities.  With a little bit of local knowledge and understanding of language and culture, I can say I have never once been harassed by police in East Asia.  Maybe I’ve been luckier than most, but I’m not a typical clueless, self-entitled tourist.

You said “the only Asian country in which it’s possible to raise a family without grossly endangering their physical well-being is Singapore.  For some reason, I’ve missed the reports on American citizen kids getting killed in Korea and Japan or even China, but perhaps you could forward some information about this hidden epidemic.  I can forward it to the international schools there, as I’m sure they’d be concerned. If I raised my kids in the U.S., I feel like I grossly endanger their physical well being and their minds, unless I keep them away from major cities and public schools.  When the only way to do schooling without screwing up your kids is to do it yourself, something is wrong with the system.  Amazed that you’d try to argue this, but I guess you were thinking that when I said “East Asia,” I really meant India.

Dec. 8, 2013

Anti-Globalist writes:

Major Chinese cities are absolutely filthy with air pollution; out of the ~3 months in total I’ve spent in Beijing over the years, for example, I’ve seen the Sun and blueish skies on precisely two days. Maybe you feel safe in major Chinese cities; I hasten to assure you that there are no-go zones in those cities, and that includes districts with restaurants and nightclubs, after the locals have tossed down a few. Same for Taipei and Seoul. And in Tokyo, for that matter.

I concede your language expertise; I only speak one Asian language, and incompletely, at that. Nevertheless, you have what I consider to be a very idealized view of China and Japan. I would never raise children in either place; besides the pollution in China and the oppressive political climate (including rising anti-Americanism), they’d be forever considered outsiders, and in Japan, while the pollution and the oppression isn’t an issue, they’d still be considered outsiders, and subjected to continual bullying in either place because of it. They’d be far better of in the USA in a private school with high academic standards and a traditionalist curriculum.

How an American (or Western European) could even contemplate raising his children in Communist China is beyond me (no, I don’t buy the ‘post-Marxist’ argument). I don’t have children, but if I did, I surely wouldn’t raise them anywhere in Asia.

I don’t hate Asia, either, or I wouldn’t live and work here. What I hate are the deleterious effects of Asian culture on that of the West. I believe that it’s a huge mistake to import Asians wholesale into the United States, for the reasons I’ve already stated.

Anti-Globalist adds:

It’s my guess that Steve is married to a Chinese woman, and has allowed himself to be converted to at least some of her views. I can’t imagine any American woman, liberal or conservative, who would agree to pick up stakes and raise her children in, filthy, oppressive, Communist China.

Anti-Globalist continues:

The second main reason that Asian immigration to the U.S. is being encouraged (the first being that they vote Democrat) is this.

Note that according to the article, 70% of Asian immigrants speak their native languages at home. So much for assimilation.

I recommend this John Derbyshire piece on Asian attitudes. The piece is from Vdare 13 years ago.

Sheila C. writes:

Since I neither speak the language nor have the number of residential years in Asian countries to equal the experiences of either Expatriate or Steve, I will forbear to comment on who is correct regarding crime and quality of life in East Asian nations in general. However, I have a question to pose to Steve. Given that he feels these countries are far safer than America (and here we’re assuming “America” as it is currently constituted, not the majority white America pre 1965) and that Asians as a whole are smarter than whites, then why do their most capable citizens feel the need to colonize the United States and other Western nations, such as Canada or Australia?

Obviously, they come for primarily economic reasons – but why is this so? Why can not a race of purportedly capable and intellectually superior and peaceful people create a society where the citizens must not emigrate to alien nations and cultures in order to live an economically comfortable life? Why can they not create a society where those students who wish to pursue higher education can do so in their native language and native environment? If Steve wishes to argue that China’s Communist ideology and policies is to blame, he will be arguing disingenuously and from false premises. If Steve wishes to deny that the Asian immigrants in Western countries are not those generally more economically and intellectually capable from their native countries, he will be lying. Aside from those two false premises, on what grounds would he argue Asians need to live in white, Western nations?

Laura writes:

Great question.

Daniel writes:

One thing I despise is that even on ethnopatriot blogs (of which I consider yours), there are always these apologists for Asians. It doesn’t matter the topic, issue, problem – these people crawl out of the woodwork to defend their racial replacement of us because they are ‘smarter’ and do not act like blacks.

I say to that – it doesn’t matter. Asians are not my people. The Asia-philes seem to be saying that Asians will make great ersatz-white people. They like classical music! They go to PTA meetings! They can do all of those things, and yet blood is thicker than water – I want my people and my culture to survive. I don’t want to see their destruction hastened just because right now things aren’t great.

I get so upset over those comments, which are a reverse of the left liberal mentality that they almost send me into a fit of rage.

Daniel adds:

Just reverse that sentiment for any other race. Example – “As a proud Asian, I think Asians are too herdlike and materialistic – that is why I welcome their race replacement by Europeans. They will be better Asians than we ever were!” – and the absurdity is laid bare.

The point is that not all humans are square pegs that you can just force into holes. “Steve” actually agrees with what the ruling class thinks.