IN RESPONSE to interrogation by a listener, Gerry Matatics explains in this talk last night why the Vatican II Church is not the Catholic Church, why Robert Francis Prevost’s ordination is gravely doubtful, and why he is  is not a valid bishop or pope. No formal trial for heresy is needed for lay Catholics to recognize and act upon these facts.

Starting at minute 38:00, a roughly hour-long discussion takes place.

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